Paleonet: publication date

Daniele Scarponi daniele.scarponi at unibo.it
Fri Dec 19 09:59:36 GMT 2008


Hi Bruno Granier,

Google is a really good tool, however often is possible to find contrasting or incomplete versions of a fact. 

This case is symptomatic, Forewords  of P's book were written by Latreille in 1827 (the headings report: Acadèmie des Sciences, Sèance 12 mars 1827). So the final version of Payraudeau's book has been published in the first part of 1827. We have got a copy of the above mentioned book in our library.

 

Unfortunately we don't have a copy of Risso's book, I searched on the web, and I found that Risso's volume 3 seems have been published on 1827 (see what I found "Risso, A. 1827 (22 Sept.) [Ref ID: 3757] Histoire naturelle des principales productions de l'Europe méridionale, et particulièrement de celles des environs de Nice et des Alpes maritimes. F. G. Levrault, Paris & Strasbourg. Histoire naturelle des principales productions de l'Europe méridionale, ... v. 3: i-xvi + 1-480, Pls. 1-16. [Fishes in vol. 3 of 5. Published in 1827, not 1826; see Forest 1958:474 [ref. 23157]."). 

 

This would imply that P's book came before R's book. However, your search reported a completely different result (at least for Risso's book). I think only someone that could have access to a copy of Risso's book could give a decisive answer. Do you know anyone?

 

Thank you very much.

 

Daniele


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From: paleonet-bounces at nhm.ac.uk on behalf of Bruno Granier
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Subject: Re: Paleonet: publication date



Daniele Scarponi a écrit :
> Hi and Season's Greetings to everyone,
> I have difficulties in stating which of the two below mentioned books has been published first. Is there anyone that could help me?
> Risso, A. (1826) Histoire Naturelle des Principales Productions de l'Europe Méridionale et Particulièrement de Celle des Environs de Nice et des Alps Maritimes. Vol. 4. F.-G. Levrault, Paris, vii + 439 pp., 12 pls.
> Payraudeau, B.-C. (1826) Catalogue Descriptif et Méthodique des Annélides et des Mollusques del'Ile de Corse, avec huit Planches Représentant Quatre-vingt huit Espèces dont Soixante-huit Nouvelles. Levrault Bechet, Paris, 7 + 218 pp., 8 pls.
> Cheers
> Daniele Scarponi
>
>  
Hi,
A search on Google for
Catalogue Descriptif et Méthodique des Annélides et des Mollusques de
l'ile de Corse, avec huit Planches Représentant Quatre-vingt huit
Espèces dont Soixante-huit Nouvelles
returned 7 results. I checked the 2nd on the list
http://books.google.fr/books?id=FRAAAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA8-IA5&lpg=PA8-IA5&dq=Catalogue+Descriptif+et+M%C3%A9thodique+des+Ann%C3%A9lides+et+des+Mollusques+de+l%27ile+de+Corse,+avec+huit+Planches+Repr%C3%A9sentant+Quatre-vingt+huit+Esp%C3%A8ces+dont+Soixante-huit+Nouvelles&source=bl&ots=vjZZPQAPPZ&sig=FUAztYQUHvkEjE6mqvZMHtIKKG8&hl=fr&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result#PPA1,M1
In the forewords by Mr Latreille from the French Academy of Sciences, it
is said that in the session of the 19th of the past month (the forewords
are part of the session of March 12th), that is on February 19th, Mr
Payraudeau offered/presented a version of his catalogue prossibly
printed (as its described as "formant un volume in-8°  de 218 pages,
avec 8 planches lithographiées)

For the Risso's publications I only found Tome V and I. Apparently all
the Tomes were published in 1826
Regarding Tome I (448 p.)
http://books.google.fr/books?id=DicaAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA207&dq=risso+Histoire+naturelle+des+principales+productions+de+l%E2%80%99Europe+m%C3%A9ridionale+et+particuli%C3%A8rement+de+celles+des+environs+de+Nice+et+des+Alpes+Maritimes,+vol.+4#PPP5,M1
on its back there are references to other books available from the same
publisher (F.G. Levrault), including Opuscules Phytologiques by  A.H.G.
de Cassini
http://books.google.fr/books?id=fhEAAAAAQAAJ&dq=Opuscules+phytologiques+Cassini&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=BTDeHKdQxo&sig=HNBH6mbymASbcx5XcS-_MvJAVKE&hl=fr&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPR38,M1
the long forewords (xxxvi pages) end with a date May 9th, 1826

In conclusion, my understanding is that Payraudeau came before Risso.
;)






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