Paleonet: When is it a "dig"?

[Christian Emig]

Extract from  ATILF - CNRS - http://atilf.atilf.fr/ 
fossile =
Étymol. et Hist. 1. 1556 adj. « qui peut être extrait de la terre, minéral » (LE BLANC, Trad. de Cardan, fo 61 vo ds GDF. Compl.); 2. 1713 géol. adj. et subst. (d'apr. Trév. 1732); 3. a) 1827 adj. fam. « vieux, suranné » (ECKSTEIN, Le Catholique, no 24, déc., 536 ds QUEM. DDL t. 15); b) 1833 subst. désigne gén. une pers. (Musset, loc. cit.). Empr. au lat. class. fossilis « tiré de la terre » (lui-même du supin de fodere, fossum). Fréq. abs. littér. : 231. Fréq. rel. littér. : XIXe s. : a) 433, b) 468; XXe s. : a) 219, b) 229. Bbg. ARICKX (I.). Les Orthoépistes sur la sellette. Trav. Ling. Gand. 1972, no 3, p. 130.  DAUZAT (A.). L'Attraction paron. ds le fr. pop. contemp. Archivum romanicum. 1937, t. 21, p. 20; Ling. fr. 1946, p. 255.  MAT. Louis-Philippe 1951, p. 76, 235.  QUEM. DDL t. 3; 5, 12 (s.v. fossilifère).

Back to French translation : extract = récupérer  and dig up =  retirer de (remove) have not the same meaning - French language is bit more rich than the English... in this case.

So "dig" is a local use in some countries !

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Christian

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Le 16 juin 2014 à 10:07, Thaddeus Kind a écrit :

> The term seems customary, broadly covering when ground is broken and interred remains, artifacts or rocks and minerals are collected or studied. "Dig" flows easily from the etymology of "fossil"(fossil (n.) 1610s, "anything dug up;" 1650s (adj.) "obtained by digging," from French fossile (16c.), from Latin fossilis "dug up," from fossus, past participle of fodere "to dig," from PIE root *bhedh- "to dig, pierce." etymonline.com) and the meaning of "fossorial". 
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> Quick usage searches shows "a dig" associated with field archaeology, anthropology, paleontology, geology and mineralogy. Because excavation techniques across these disciplines may differ, the word may not be delimitable to any particular set of practices. Whether a zoologist questing for live specimens of subterranean forms would announce that activity as a "dig" is unlikely but a good question.
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> "Field work" has the certain advantage of being a phrase with more room
> for intellectual activities not entailing hard manual labor, yet the charming idea of discovery(Eureka!)and a dig are old comrades with public relations advantages.
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> Edward Hennessey
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> On Sunday, June 15, 2014 6:53 PM, Norman MacLeod <n.macleod at nhm.ac.uk> wrote:
> I don¹t know, but I¹ve been told a Œdig¹ (which is what anthropologists
> do) has straight sides and (often) a grid system in the bottom which is
> used for mapping the positions and orientation of objects found in the
> Œdig¹. A hole (which is what paleontologists make) has sloping sides and
> perhaps a couple of smaller holes where samples have been taken in the
> bottom, on occasion along with a couple beer cans and a wet spot.
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> Norm MacLeod
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> On 16/06/2014 01:54, "Roy Plotnick" <plotnick at uic.edu> wrote:
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>> Paleofolks:
>> As an invertebrate paleontologist, I often tell people I don't go on
>> "digs" but conduct "field work."  I know archeologists use the term
>> "dig," and I often see the term associated with dinosaur work, but I was
>> wondering if anyone has ever discussed when collecting fossils at a
>> locality becomes a "dig."  Is it indeed discipline based?  Comments
>> appreciated - Roy
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