Paleonet: Earth Science Women's Network Event - Demystifying the NERC Independent Research Fellowships: Interviews

Mon Sep 26 23:46:52 UTC 2022

 My comment was that I supposed you were sending out a focused mailing list, and you needed to take my (male) name off the listing.  No big deal.  My first name is Clair, and I cannot tell you how many times people have made the assumption that I was a woman.  Goes with the territory if you have a name that could be either sex.
Not offended.  Just trying to help.
Clair Ossian

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From: Weil, Anne <anne.weil at okstate.edu>
To: PaleoNet <paleonet at paleonet.org>
Sent: Mon, Sep 26, 2022 1:22 pm
Subject: Re: Paleonet: Earth Science Women's Network Event - Demystifying the NERC Independent Research Fellowships: Interviews

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I dunno, if I had been named “Kevin” I might have become overly sensitive to and even triggered by people seeming to make assumptions about what I’m interested based on my first name.  I’m wincing just imagining the spam I could be getting about monster trucks and men’s rights. 😉  55 years of that and I’d have a kneejerk reaction before I realized it had gone to the entire list too, I’m sure.

I certainly don’t think this is “trouble” or that it merits sneering about anyone else’s career.

Thanks,
Anne

 __________________________________________________ Anne Weil, Ph.D. Dept. of Anatomy and Cell Biology Oklahoma State University Center for Health Sciences 1111 W. 17th St. Tulsa, OK 74107    ofc. Phone (918) 561-8266 e-mail: anne.weil at okstate.edu    ANATOMY AND VERTEBRATE PALEONTOLOGY TRACK! See: https://health.okstate.edu/biomedical/paleontology.html and @OSUVertPaleo on Twitter          From: Paleonet <paleonet-bounces+anne.weil=okstate.edu at paleonet.org>On Behalf Of Elizabeth Sibert
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2022 11:00 AM
To: PaleoNet <paleonet at paleonet.org>
Subject: Re: Paleonet: Earth Science Women's Network Event - Demystifying the NERC Independent Research Fellowships: Interviews    CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe  Thanks for sending this Omar! I was considering how to respond to this person (he was also the one who made trouble last time) - and appreciate you saying something. I think it is taken more seriously when it comes from someone who is not a "young" woman.    It shouldn't be necessary for you to take this risk in sending this email, but thank you for doing so.      Best, Elizabeth   p.s. I looked the person up this morning and it seems like he's an emeritus "professor" who worked in oil for decades and then moved to teach geology at a community college in Texas, so he's also not "early career"...     -- Elizabeth C. Sibert, PhD Hutchinson Postdoctoral Fellow Yale Institute for Biospheric Studies Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences Yale University New Haven, CT elizabeth.sibert at yale.edu elizabethsibert.com       Monday, September 26, 2022, 10:38:40 AM, Omar Rafael Regalado <orafregfer at gmail.com> wrote:    
Dear all,     This paleonet mailing list is for advertising info that may be of interest for the professional network in general. The Earth Science Women's Network Event is an event open to everyone, but even if it wasn't, there is a chance everyone in the list knows women who might be interested.    If an event/ad is not interesting for you, I would recommend just ignoring the email rather than spamming the mailing list with complaints.    To be honest, it is quite telling that we only receive spammy complaints from events that involve women in science and not the myriad of requests on obscure taxonomy or job ads; proof that these events are needed.    I'm sending this just to let know the organisers of ESWN that I - a self-identified man - am okay receiving emails from you and hope you keep using paleonet to advertise it.    Best wishes,  Omar (he/him)     On Mon, 26 Sep 2022, 11:38 Clair Ossian <clastic at verizon.net> wrote: 
not a woman          -----Original Message-----
From: Earth Science Women's Network Events <events at eswnonline.org>
To: PaleoNet <Paleonet at paleonet.org>
Sent: Mon, Sep 26, 2022 2:00 am
Subject: Paleonet: Earth Science Women's Network Event - Demystifying the NERC Independent Research Fellowships: Interviews Hello paleonet community,    Are you interested in the NERC Independent Research Fellowships? Or thinking about how to interview for NERC research fellowships in the future?  Unsure of what to revise or nervous about what to expect? Want to learn more from those who work on and have experience of the fellowship?

The Earth Science Women's Network is hosting a webinar on November 24th 2022 at 1330 UTC! This event will focus on interviewing for the NERC IRF and we hope to set you up for interview success! This event is totally free, and is the second in a two-part series. You can catch up with Part 1 on applications here: https://youtu.be/hSPk7ZaHR94

You can find the start time in your timezone using this link:  https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Demystifying+the+NERC+IRF%3A+Interviews&iso=20221124T1330&p1=136&ah=1&am=30

*****PLEASE NOTE: This event is ESWN led, with speakers from NERC*****

We will be joined by:

James Box (NERC Senior Programme Manager, Talent and Skills and NERC IRF Lead)
Emily Mitchell (University of Cambridge)
Jennifer Morris (NERC Programme Manager)
Carol Robinson (University of East Anglia)
Clare Warren (Open University)  

The agenda for the event is listed below:

Welcome and Introductions [5 mins]
Presentation on NERC IRF Interviews (James Box) [20 mins]
Panel Discussion and Q&A [30 mins]
Breakout Rooms - meet the panellists [35 mins]
Event Close

All parts of this workshop (except the breakout rooms) will be recorded. A link will be made available to participants after the workshop.      Register here: https://forms.gle/R9mcbTuuEMG5WaYA7

We are excited for you to join us!

If you have any questions please contact us via events at eswnonline.org

Best wishes,
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